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NAMEDATALEN's benchmarked are 32, 64, 128 and 512. Attached is the
shell script I used to do it.
First row of a set is the time(1) for the pgbench -i run, second is
the actual benchmark. Aside from the 'real' time of 64 there is a
distinct increase in time required, but not significant.
Benchmarks were run for 3000 transactions with scale factor of 5, but
only 1 client. If there is a preferred setting for pgbench I can do
an overnight run with it. Machine is a dual 500Mhz celery with 384MB
ram and 2 IBM Deskstars in Raid 0, and a seperate system drive.
Anything but 32 fails the 'name' check in the regression tests -- I
assume this is expected?
Don't know why 64 has a high 'real' time, but the system times are
appropriate.
NAMEDATALEN: 32
158.97 real 1.81 user 0.14 sys
80.58 real 1.30 user 3.81 sys
NAMEDATALEN: 64
248.40 real 1.85 user 0.10 sys
96.36 real 1.44 user 3.86 sys
NAMEDATALEN: 128
156.74 real 1.84 user 0.10 sys
94.36 real 1.47 user 4.01 sys
NAMEDATALEN: 512
157.99 real 1.83 user 0.12 sys
101.14 real 1.47 user 4.23 sys
--
Rod Taylor
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#!/bin/sh
PGSRC=3D/data/buildtree/postgres/postgresql-7.2
PGBASEPORT=3D5400
PGBASEBIN=3D/data/buildtree/postgres/postgres72
LOG=3D/home/rbt/temp/bench_namedatalen.log
for newDATALEN in 32 64 128 512 ; do
PGBIN=3D${PGBASEBIN}_${newDATALEN}
PGPORT=3D`echo "${PGBASEPORT}+${newDATALEN}" | bc`
sed -E 's/NAMEDATALEN\s[0-9]+/NAMEDATALEN ${newDATALEN}/g' ${PGSRC}/src/i=
nclude/postgres_ext.h > ${PGSRC}/src/include/postgres_ext.h.tmp
mv ${PGSRC}/src/include/postgres_ext.h.tmp ${PGSRC}/src/include/postgres_=
ext.h
cd ${PGSRC}
./configure --prefix=3D${PGBIN} --with-pgport=3D${PGPORT} || (echo "UNABL=
E TO CONFIGURE"; exit)
make clean
make clean install
cd ${PGSRC}/contrib/pgbench
gmake install
${PGBIN}/bin/initdb -D ${PGBIN}/data || (echo "UNABLE TO INITIALIZE"; ex=
it 1)
${PGBIN}/bin/pg_ctl -D ${PGBIN}/data start || (echo "UNABLE TO START"; e=
xit 1)
sleep 5
echo "NAMEDATALEN: ${newDATALEN}" >> ${LOG}
echo >> ${LOG}
time -a -o ${LOG} ${PGBIN}/bin/pgbench -i -s 5 -d template1 -p ${PGPORT}
time -a -o ${LOG} ${PGBIN}/bin/pgbench -t 3000 -s 5 -d template1 -p ${PGP=
ORT}
echo >> ${LOG}
echo >> ${LOG}
${PGBIN}/bin/pg_ctl -D ${PGBIN}/data stop
rm -rf ${PGBIN}
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"Rod Taylor" <rbt@zort.ca> writes:
> [ some hard data ]
Great! The numbers for namedatalen = 64 seem like an outlier; perhaps
something else going on on your system? Did you try more than one run?
> Anything but 32 fails the 'name' check in the regression tests -- I
> assume this is expected?
Right. If you eyeball the actual diffs for the test you should see that
the diff is due to a long name not getting truncated where the test
expects it to be.
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> > Great! The numbers for namedatalen = 64 seem like an outlier;
perhaps
> something else going on on your system? Did you try more than one
run?
Ran it again shortly after sending the email. It fell in line (mid
way between 32 and 128) with Real time as would normally be expected.
The times for the other values and 64's system times were very close
to the original so I won't bother posting them again.
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On Wednesday 13 February 2002 21:07, Rod Taylor wrote:
> NAMEDATALEN's benchmarked are 32, 64, 128 and 512. Attached is the
> shell script I used to do it.
Attached is a modified version for Linux, if anyone is interested.
Will run it overnight out of quasi-scientific interest.
Nice to have an idea what kind of effect my very long NAMEDATALEN setting
(128) has.
Yours
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Rod Taylor writes:
> NAMEDATALEN's benchmarked are 32, 64, 128 and 512. Attached is the
> shell script I used to do it.
That's around a 15% performance loss for increasing it to 64 or 128.
Seems pretty scary actually.
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Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net> writes:
> That's around a 15% performance loss for increasing it to 64 or 128.
> Seems pretty scary actually.
Some of that could be bought back by fixing hashname() to not iterate
past the first \0 when calculating the hash of a NAME datum; and then
cc_hashname could go away. Not sure how much this would buy though.
Looking closely at Rod's script, I realize that the user+sys times it is
reporting are not the backend's but the pgbench client's. So it's
impossible to tell from this how much of the extra cost is extra I/O and
how much is CPU. I'm actually quite surprised that the client side
shows any CPU-time difference at all; I wouldn't think it ever sees any
null-padded NAME values.
regards, tom lane
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Subject: Re: [HACKERS] NAMEDATALEN Changes
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On Wed, 2002-02-13 at 20:00, Tom Lane wrote:
> Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net> writes:
> > That's around a 15% performance loss for increasing it to 64 or 128.
> > Seems pretty scary actually.
>
> Some of that could be bought back by fixing hashname() to not iterate
> past the first \0 when calculating the hash of a NAME datum; and then
> cc_hashname could go away. Not sure how much this would buy though.
I've attached a pretty trivial patch that implements this. Instead of
automatically hashing NAMEDATALEN bytes, hashname() uses only strlen()
bytes: this should improve both the common case (small identifers, 5-10
characters long), as well as reduce the penalty when NAMEDATALEN is
increased. The patch passes the regression tests, FWIW. I didn't remove
cc_hashname() -- I'll tackle that tomorrow unless anyone objects...
I also did some pretty simple benchmarks; however, I'd appreciate it
anyone could confirm these results.
pg_bench: scale factor 1, 1 client, 10000 transactions.
hardware: p3-850, 384 MB RAM, slow laptop IDE disk
Run 1: Patch applied, NAMEDATALEN = 32
number of transactions actually processed: 10000/10000
tps = 19.940020(including connections establishing)
tps = 19.940774(excluding connections establishing)
Run 2: Patch applied, NAMEDATALEN = 128
number of transactions actually processed: 10000/10000
tps = 20.849385(including connections establishing)
tps = 20.850010(excluding connections establishing)
Run 3: Vanilla CVS, NAMEDATALEN = 32
(This is to check that the patch doesn't cause performance regressions
for the "common case")
number of transactions actually processed: 10000/10000
tps = 18.295418(including connections establishing)
tps = 18.296191(excluding connections establishing)
The performance improvement @ NAMEDATALEN = 128 seems strange. As I
said, these benchmarks may not be particularly accurate, so I'd suggest
waiting for others to contribute results before drawing any conclusions.
Oh, and this is my first "real" Pg patch, so my apologies if I've
screwed something up. ;-)
Cheers,
Neil
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*** ./src/backend/access/hash/hashfunc.c.orig Wed Feb 13 21:09:37 2002
--- ./src/backend/access/hash/hashfunc.c Thu Feb 14 00:39:42 2002
***************
*** 95,101 ****
{
char *key =3D NameStr(*PG_GETARG_NAME(0));
=20=20
! return hash_any((char *) key, NAMEDATALEN);
}
=20=20
/*
--- 95,101 ----
{
char *key =3D NameStr(*PG_GETARG_NAME(0));
=20=20
! return hash_any(key, strlen(key));
}
=20=20
/*
***************
*** 125,131 ****
*
* (Comment from the original db3 hashing code: )
*
! * "This is INCREDIBLY ugly, but fast. We break the string up into 8 byte
* units. On the first time through the loop we get the 'leftover bytes'
* (strlen % 8). On every later iteration, we perform 8 HASHC's so we ha=
ndle
* all 8 bytes. Essentially, this saves us 7 cmp & branch instructions. =
If
--- 125,131 ----
*
* (Comment from the original db3 hashing code: )
*
! * This is INCREDIBLY ugly, but fast. We break the string up into 8 byte
* units. On the first time through the loop we get the 'leftover bytes'
* (strlen % 8). On every later iteration, we perform 8 HASHC's so we ha=
ndle
* all 8 bytes. Essentially, this saves us 7 cmp & branch instructions. =
If
***************
*** 134,140 ****
* "OZ's original sdbm hash"
*/
Datum
! hash_any(char *keydata, int keylen)
{
uint32 n;
int loop;
--- 134,140 ----
* "OZ's original sdbm hash"
*/
Datum
! hash_any(const char *keydata, int keylen)
{
uint32 n;
int loop;
*** ./src/include/access/hash.h.orig Wed Feb 13 22:43:06 2002
--- ./src/include/access/hash.h Thu Feb 14 00:38:35 2002
***************
*** 265,271 ****
extern Datum hashint2vector(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS);
extern Datum hashname(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS);
extern Datum hashvarlena(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS);
! extern Datum hash_any(char *keydata, int keylen);
=20=20
=20=20
/* private routines */
--- 265,271 ----
extern Datum hashint2vector(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS);
extern Datum hashname(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS);
extern Datum hashvarlena(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS);
! extern Datum hash_any(const char *keydata, int keylen);
=20=20
=20=20
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On Wednesday 13 February 2002 23:59, Neil Conway wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-02-13 at 20:00, Tom Lane wrote:
[perf hit comment removed]
>
> I've attached a pretty trivial patch that implements this. Instead of
> automatically hashing NAMEDATALEN bytes, hashname() uses only strlen()
> bytes: this should improve both the common case (small identifers, 5-10
> characters long), as well as reduce the penalty when NAMEDATALEN is
> increased. The patch passes the regression tests, FWIW. I didn't remove
> cc_hashname() -- I'll tackle that tomorrow unless anyone objects...
>
> I also did some pretty simple benchmarks; however, I'd appreciate it
> anyone could confirm these results.
>
Please bare with me on this as this is my first posting having any real
content. <20>Please don't hang me out if I've overlooked anything and I'm
pointing out that I'm making a rather large assumption. Please correct as
needed.
The primary assumption is that the actual key lengths can be less than
NAMEDATALEN. That is, if the string, "shortkey" is a valid input key (??)
which provides a key length of 8-bytes as input to the hash_any() function
even though NAMEDATALEN may be something like 128 or larger. If this
assumption is correct, then wouldn't increasing the default input key size
(NAMEDATALEN) beyond the maximum actual key length be a bug? That is to say,
if we have a key with only 8-bytes of data and we iterrate over 128-bytes,
wouldn't the resulting hash be arbitrary and invalid as it would be hashing
memory which is not reflective of the key being hashed?
If my assumptions are correct, then it sounds like using the strlen()
implementation (assuming input keys are valid C-strings) is really the proper
implementation short of using an adjusted min(NAMEDATALEN,strlen()) type
approach.
[snip - var NAMEDATALEN benchmark results]
Greg
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Greg Copeland <greg@CopelandConsulting.Net> writes:
> if we have a key with only 8-bytes of data and we iterrate over 128-bytes,
> wouldn't the resulting hash be arbitrary and invalid as it would be hashing
> memory which is not reflective of the key being hashed?
As long as we do it *consistently*, we can do it either way. Using the
trailing nulls in the hash does alter the computed hash value --- but
we're only ever gonna compare the hash value against other hash values
computed on other NAMEs by this same routine.
This all assumes that the inputs are valid NAMEs, viz strlen <
NAMEDATALEN and no funny business beyond the first \0. In practice,
however, if a bogus NAME were handed to us we would just as soon ignore
any characters beyond the first \0, because the ordering comparison
operators for NAME all do so (they're all based on strncmp), as do the
I/O routines etc. So this change actually makes the system more
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On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 12:59:40AM -0500, Neil Conway wrote:
> I've attached a pretty trivial patch that implements this. Instead of
> automatically hashing NAMEDATALEN bytes, hashname() uses only strlen()
> bytes: this should improve both the common case (small identifers, 5-10
> characters long), as well as reduce the penalty when NAMEDATALEN is
> increased. The patch passes the regression tests, FWIW. I didn't remove
> cc_hashname() -- I'll tackle that tomorrow unless anyone objects...
Okay, I've attached a new version that removes cc_hashname(). As with
the previous patch, this passes the regression tests. Feedback is welcome.
Cheers,
Neil
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*** ./src/backend/access/hash/hashfunc.c.orig Wed Feb 13 21:09:37 2002
--- ./src/backend/access/hash/hashfunc.c Thu Feb 14 00:39:42 2002
***************
*** 95,101 ****
{
char *key = NameStr(*PG_GETARG_NAME(0));
! return hash_any((char *) key, NAMEDATALEN);
}
/*
--- 95,101 ----
{
char *key = NameStr(*PG_GETARG_NAME(0));
! return hash_any(key, strlen(key));
}
/*
***************
*** 125,131 ****
*
* (Comment from the original db3 hashing code: )
*
! * "This is INCREDIBLY ugly, but fast. We break the string up into 8 byte
* units. On the first time through the loop we get the 'leftover bytes'
* (strlen % 8). On every later iteration, we perform 8 HASHC's so we handle
* all 8 bytes. Essentially, this saves us 7 cmp & branch instructions. If
--- 125,131 ----
*
* (Comment from the original db3 hashing code: )
*
! * This is INCREDIBLY ugly, but fast. We break the string up into 8 byte
* units. On the first time through the loop we get the 'leftover bytes'
* (strlen % 8). On every later iteration, we perform 8 HASHC's so we handle
* all 8 bytes. Essentially, this saves us 7 cmp & branch instructions. If
***************
*** 134,140 ****
* "OZ's original sdbm hash"
*/
Datum
! hash_any(char *keydata, int keylen)
{
uint32 n;
int loop;
--- 134,140 ----
* "OZ's original sdbm hash"
*/
Datum
! hash_any(const char *keydata, int keylen)
{
uint32 n;
int loop;
*** ./src/backend/utils/cache/catcache.c.orig Thu Feb 14 12:51:00 2002
--- ./src/backend/utils/cache/catcache.c Thu Feb 14 12:53:05 2002
***************
*** 93,99 ****
static Index CatalogCacheComputeTupleHashIndex(CatCache *cache,
HeapTuple tuple);
static void CatalogCacheInitializeCache(CatCache *cache);
- static Datum cc_hashname(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS);
/*
--- 93,98 ----
***************
*** 109,115 ****
case CHAROID:
return hashchar;
case NAMEOID:
! return cc_hashname;
case INT2OID:
return hashint2;
case INT2VECTOROID:
--- 108,114 ----
case CHAROID:
return hashchar;
case NAMEOID:
! return hashname;
case INT2OID:
return hashint2;
case INT2VECTOROID:
***************
*** 129,151 ****
return (PGFunction) NULL;
}
}
-
- static Datum
- cc_hashname(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS)
- {
- /*
- * We need our own variant of hashname because we want to accept
- * null-terminated C strings as search values for name fields. So, we
- * have to make sure the data is correctly padded before we compute
- * the hash value.
- */
- NameData my_n;
-
- namestrcpy(&my_n, NameStr(*PG_GETARG_NAME(0)));
-
- return DirectFunctionCall1(hashname, NameGetDatum(&my_n));
- }
-
/*
* Standard routine for creating cache context if it doesn't exist yet
--- 128,133 ----
*** ./src/include/access/hash.h.orig Wed Feb 13 22:43:06 2002
--- ./src/include/access/hash.h Thu Feb 14 00:38:35 2002
***************
*** 265,271 ****
extern Datum hashint2vector(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS);
extern Datum hashname(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS);
extern Datum hashvarlena(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS);
! extern Datum hash_any(char *keydata, int keylen);
/* private routines */
--- 265,271 ----
extern Datum hashint2vector(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS);
extern Datum hashname(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS);
extern Datum hashvarlena(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS);
! extern Datum hash_any(const char *keydata, int keylen);
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On Wednesday 13 February 2002 23:27, Ian Barwick wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 February 2002 21:07, Rod Taylor wrote:
> > NAMEDATALEN's benchmarked are 32, 64, 128 and 512. Attached is the
> > shell script I used to do it.
>
> Attached is a modified version for Linux, if anyone is interested.
>
> Will run it overnight out of quasi-scientific interest.
>
> Nice to have an idea what kind of effect my very long NAMEDATALEN setting
> (128) has.
Below the probably quite uninformative results, run under Linux with 2.2.16
on an AMD K2 350Mhz with 256MB RAM, EIDE HDs and other run of the mill
hardware.
I suspect some of the normal system jobs which usually run during the night
caused the wildly varying results. Whatever else, for my purposes at least
any performance issues with differening NAMEDATALENgths are nothing much
to worry about.
NAMEDATALEN: 32
220.73 real 3.39 user 0.10 sys
110.03 real 2.77 user 4.42 sys
NAMEDATALEN: 64
205.31 real 3.55 user 0.08 sys
109.76 real 2.53 user 4.18 sys
NAMEDATALEN: 128
224.65 real 3.35 user 0.10 sys
121.30 real 2.60 user 3.89 sys
NAMEDATALEN: 256
209.48 real 3.62 user 0.11 sys
118.90 real 3.00 user 3.88 sys
NAMEDATALEN: 512
204.65 real 3.36 user 0.14 sys
115.12 real 2.54 user 3.88 sys
Ian Barwick
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