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From nobody Tue Oct 7 19:29:17 1997
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To: Akim Demaille <demaille@inf.enst.fr>
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Subject: Re: Shared libs before installation
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From: Gordon Matzigkeit <gord@m-tech.ab.ca>
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Date: 07 Oct 1997 11:52:59 -0600
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In-Reply-To: Akim Demaille's message of 26 Sep 1997 14:28:51 +0200
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Hi!
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>>>>> Akim Demaille writes:
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AD> We once talked about this, but let's do it again :)
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Okay! ;)
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AD> I know this is the kind of things version numbers should
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AD> solve. Nevertheless, to avoid having quickly too big a version
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AD> number, the version should be set right before a _public_
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AD> distribution (correct?). Not when sharing with
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AD> testers/maintainers.
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AD> But then they are most likely to link with an old installed
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AD> version of the .so, failing to compile correctly.
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Actually, you may consider having *huge* version numbers for testers,
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and using tiny ones for public releases.
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For testing releases use a major version corresponding with the
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current date: -version-info 19971007
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Then for the public release, figure out what has actually changed
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since last time: -version-info 3:0:1
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The huge test release major numbers will guarantee that every new test
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release will require relinking, but the public versions will be
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smarter and possibly backwards-compatible.
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AD> I am no system guy, so I may say stupid things :)
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Nothing stupid. These are legitimate questions that I will have to
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answer eventually in the documentation.
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Thanks for your questions,
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--
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Gord Matzigkeit | Proudly running pieces of the GNU operating system.
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gord@m-tech.ab.ca | Jacques Cousteau loved programming in assembler.
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Subject: Re: dlopen [was: libs dependencies]
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To: gord@m-tech.ab.ca (Gordon Matzigkeit)
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 20:55:19 +0200 (MET DST)
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X-Gnus-Article-Number: 5 Mon Nov 2 17:16:26 1998
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>
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> Hi!
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>
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> >>>>> Stephan Kulow writes:
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>
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> I think we've adequately discussed your library dependencies, but I
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> wanted to comment on the dlopen support that you mention below:
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>
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> SK> BTW: I made some efforts to use the dlopen support in libtool. I
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> SK> think, it works the way I tried it. I link staticly, if dlfcn.h
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> SK> or libdl is not supported. For this I patched libtool.m4 to
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> SK> support this. I had to remove the --enable-shared/static options
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> SK> and replaced it with --disable-dlopen option, since it looks
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> SK> somewhat strange, if you have --enable-shared in a package, where
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> SK> you do not expect libs.
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>
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> Yes, you are right. When I fully support dlopen emulation, I will
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> need to make a configure flag that can turn things on and off.
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>
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> SK> We create a binary, that loads libraries, that contain C++
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> SK> classes derived from a specific class. So, it's not necessary,
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> SK> that the binary knows, which "applets" are there while compile
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> SK> time.
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>
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> Okay, this makes sense. This is why I generate the `symbol file' when
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> -export-dynamic is given, which contains a list of symbols mapped to
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> pointers in a C source file.
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>
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> Your solution is acceptable, and if it works for your application,
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> congratulations! As I've said before, my eventual solution will be
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> generic and application-independent: I will write a true dlopen
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> implementation that uses a libtool `symbol file' to resolve pointers
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> rather than dynamic loading of code.
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>
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> The C++ portion of this will need to understand name mangling, which
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> is probably why you chose the easier way, of making your dlopening
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> application-specific.
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You say, you will write code? I tried to imagine a solution without
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new code, but I failed. So you write a new linker or just a library,
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that I can use in my own code?
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>
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> SK> This is somewhat a problem and I don't know a solution, how to
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> SK> solve this. So, I added a header file, that contains all
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> SK> currently known modules and this is only used, if no dlopen is
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> SK> available.
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>
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> Okay, I think I understand. You are saying that when dlopen is not
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> available, you emulate it by knowing in advance which modules have
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> been linked into the executable (SANE calls this `preloading'), and
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> changing your application to refer to specific C++ modules.
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Yes. I have to know while compilation time of the binary, which libraries
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get linked.
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>
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> As I've said above, when I release DLD 4.0 I'll let you know, but
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> until then, your application-specific preloading is acceptable, and
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> the Right Thing To Do.
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Thanks, it's a pleasure to hear such comments ;)
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>
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> SK> Thanks for writing libtool, Stephan
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>
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> My pleasure! Thanks for using it, :)
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BTW: Perhaps you remember, I once contacted you because of some problems
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with C++ and static objects in shared libs. I found out (or read in a
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news group), that most compilers on such plattforms do some magic before
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calling the linker. So, what libtool have to do to support such plattforms
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(Solaris, FreeBSD and perhaps some more), is to call the compiler and not
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the linker to create C++ shared libs.
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CC (under Solaris) has the same options then the linker, but should create
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correct libraries.
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Currently I set CC to CXX before I run AM_PROG_LIBTOOL to let libtool
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find the correct linker options for the C++ compiler instead of the C
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compiler.
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I just wanted to let you know, what I found out. I thought about patching
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libtool to have better support for C++, but this would mean some drastic
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changes, so I left it up to you ;)
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Greets, Stephan
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--
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Stephan Kulow (coolo@kde.org)
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Student of medical CS
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Medical University of Luebeck
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GCS/M/MD d-x s++: a-- C+++$ ULS+++ P--- L++ E W- N- o? K--? w
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!O-- !M !V PS++ !PE Y PGP++ t+ 5 X+ !R tv+ b+ DI? D- G e+>$
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h--(++) r y
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Hi
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I'd like to use libtool (ltmain.sh (GNU libtool) 1.2 togheter with the SUN C++
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compiler (CC: WorkShop Compilers 4.2 30 Oct 1996 C++ 4.2) on Solaris 5.5.1.
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Everything works good except if I'm trying to use C++ templates in my code and
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put this in a shared library. The linker is afterwards always complaining
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about missing references. The problem occurs because libtool renames
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the object
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files from xxx.o to xxx.lo. The SUN C++ compiler builds for himself a
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Template.DB
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and this somehow doens't match anymore with the object file.
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Have you ever heard of this problem and do you eventually allready have
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a solution?
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I search in Deja News but couldn't find anything.
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A solution I could think of would be to rename the xxx.lo file back to
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xxx.o before
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the linking phase.
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Thanks for any hints.
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ciao
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Alois
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uname -a:
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SunOS satory 5.6 Generic_105181-06 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-4
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Sun CC 4.1
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libtool 1.2
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building of shared libraries not supported.
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(output of simple conffigure is attached.)
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and in reality, the process of linking CC library is different,
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becouse generation of templates can be doing on stage of linking.
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In general, command for linking is
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CC -xar -o$(LIBNAME) $(CXXFLAGS) $(OBJECTS)
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If anybody will tell me, from what I must begin, I will help to
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add such support.
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Thanks.
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@=
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//RSSH
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